Middle C on Lucky 13 Solo?

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emilio
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Middle C on Lucky 13 Solo?

Post by emilio » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:25 pm

Where is middle C (C4) on the Lucky 13 Solo Tuned? -/1* or 4/5*?

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Re: Middle C on Lucky 13 Solo?

Post by Gnarly » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:50 pm

These 13 hole harmonicas are all lower — the added notes are lower.
So the first octave starts with C3.
Glad these are available now, I used to have to retune them!

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Re: Middle C on Lucky 13 Solo?

Post by Brendan » Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:45 am

Actually the Lucky 13 in Solo tuning starts on the G below middle C. Middle C (C4) is in holes 2/3 of the 13 holes. Here's the chart:
https://www.brendan-power.com/lucky13.php#lucky13SoloPC

The range is the same as a 14-hole chromatic, without the highest hole.

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Re: Middle C on Lucky 13 Solo?

Post by emilio » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:12 pm

Thanks so much for the replies!

One follow-up question: Am I right in thinking the Lucky 13 in Solo tuning in G starts on the D below middle C, with G3 in holes 2/3?

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Re: Middle C on Lucky 13 Solo?

Post by triona » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:44 am

Here is an alternative design of the layout chart of the Lucky 13 with Solo / Orchestra tuning in the key of C as currently produced, indicating the octaves and clarifying the confusing numbers of the holes (as counted / nominal):

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emilio wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:12 pm
One follow-up question: Am I right in thinking the Lucky 13 in Solo tuning in G starts on the D below middle C, with G3 in holes 2/3?
Possibly yes - if its layout is designed following the same pattern as the C.
But could be one octave lower as well, or anything else. Only Brendan can know the correct answer eventually.


A suggestion to Brendan:

It were useful to indicate the octaves on the layout charts. I miss this in your sales descriptions since the beginning.

And to my opinion it is quite confusing when the numbers of the holes do not correspond to the order of the holes as counted. That is the same with the numbering "1* ... 4* - 1 ... 12" on some chromatics with 4 octaves. Just my 2 cents. Others may see it differently.


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Re: Middle C on Lucky 13 Solo?

Post by Brendan » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:50 am

Good points Triona. However the Look-Dots on the MK2 version address the 'marking the octaves' issue now 🙂
As for the numbers, they are set fo now. But you can ignore them and use the Look-Dots, faster and more intuitive I think.

Yes, the range for the G Solo Lucky 13 is lower than the C. It starts on D3.

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Re: Middle C on Lucky 13 Solo?

Post by triona » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:26 pm

That would give a complete layout chart like this:

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For comparison I added a chart of the Seydel Solist Pro 12 Steel with its Standard Solo layout as well. The Lucky13 with its "Orchestra" tuning has 4 notes more on the low end. The Seydel has 2 notes more on the high end.

The price of the Lucky13 is about half of the Seydel with its steel reeds. For just a bit more you can get the Seydel configurated in many other tuning variations and keys.

Brendan wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:50 am
However the Look-Dots on the MK2 version address the 'marking the octaves' issue now 🙂
As for the numbers, they are set fo now. But you can ignore them and use the Look-Dots, faster and more intuitive I think.
And I had just been wondering about what these look dots might be good for, and why everyone here appreciates them so enthusiastically. (I usually have the harmonica in my mouth when playing, like most of us I guess. :lol: And then I can't see them.) But now I see that they can help to find out where the octaves begin without blowing into the harmonica first.

I don't care for the numbers not very much either when playing. Seydel has none of them on most of their diatonic harmonicas. But it is important to know the exact layout and range of any harmonica when considering about which one to choose to buy. Then it is interesting, which hole there is meant when talking about, and which octave there is covered by a certain instrument.

It is clear that the numbers on the covers are set for a longer time, and can easily be ignored, when the harp eventually is purchased and will be played. And they are not that important either. But the description and the layout charts in the shop could be more clear. You can use my improved version of the charts if you like.


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triona
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Cad é sin do'n té sin nach mbaineann sin dó


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